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View Poll Results: Is being gay enviromental or genetic
People are born gay due to their DNA 6 12.77%
people become gay due to their enviroment/experiances 26 55.32%
Its both genetic and enviromental together that dictate sexuality 15 31.91%
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Default Are you born gay or do you become gay?

Are you born gay or do you become gay?

Is being gay genetic? or enviromental?
Nature Vs Nurture again, but with new evidence.

I was listening to BBC radio 4 yesterday and they were reporting on a study of sexuality in identical twins.

It was found that alot of these identical twins had different sexualities, i.e. one being gay and one straght.

This new evidence suggests that contoray to some previous theories, people are not born gay. How can they be born gay if two identical twins {with identical DNA} can have different sexuality.

What are your views, do you believe a person is born gay, or that the enviroment makes them gay? or is it a genetic factor, plus an enviromental factor, i.e. both genetic and enviromental.
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

I personally think it happens over time. As we're growing up we develop interests, and things that we want to be. I, myself, am not gay. But I do know a few people whom I went to school with did not actually find out that they were until they got into high school. All of us remember when we're in middle school and whatnot and us guys or girls are always saying that the opposite gender is hot and whatnot. But then as the person begins to grow up and move into higher grades, the person begins to develop that different interest.

I honestly have no other way of explaining it. It's very hard to describe and whatnot.
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

I think it goes both ways. It's genetic, but social upbringing quells that gene from showing in our social behavior. I tend to think that the environment really plays a large role in determining sexuality - sure, you might be born gay, but if your parents are straight and strictly raise you a straight guy, and you live around a social circle made up of heterosexual people, it's either you stay straight your entire life or you realize you're homosexual along the road.
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

Ive put both, because its obvious that not all people who are born with a gene will necessarily act upon it.

However I'm sure that certain religious people and leftists will try and insist differently

But no one is born destined to have gay sex...
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

It's a very good debatable topic, and bot of you bring up great points :P
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

I think its both but in a different way. I think some people are born gay and some people become gay because they are abused and dont like the opposite sex.
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

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I think its both but in a different way. I think some people are born gay and some people become gay because they are abused and dont like the opposite sex.
In other words, any persons behaviour is ddetermined by a mixture of biological and environmental factors, where biology provides the guidelines rather than providing a precise and definate outcome.

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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

Its a mixture of both accounts.However i would put more weight on the environment factor more than the genetic argument.

The environment shapes a person.Human beings are good at adaptation.Mother nature programmed us that way.External factors such as upbringing,experience and so on more determines a person's sexual orientation.

Recent studies have pushed to proved genetics as a basis for this,however the results are rather trivial.Dean Hamer results have been replicated with contradicting results.Certain scientists are pushing the idea but as of now,the question is still up in the air.
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

Been debated to death, so I will put everything in one shot. There are far more Homosexuals in other animals than Humans (as not just the apes). Homosexuality is a Natural occurance, which shouldn't been a big deal. Homosexuality is not choice and never will be. Then I bring this up, from a friend of another forum (Masters in Biology). In order to determine that Homosexuality is a Choice as some people think. They will have to debunk every single thing that is listed:

How is homosexuality natural?
-Location of the prostate
-Erogenous nerves around the anus
-Almost every mammal has successful homosexual members.
-Kin Selection Theory
-Birth Order Theory
-Twin Theory
-Homosexuals still reproductively successful.

-Homosexuals not less fit for survival of species than heterosexuals.
--Thus not selected against natural selection.

-Homosexuals have, on average, much different Major Histogram Complex's, making them resistant to diseases that heterosexuals are not.
--That's the Genetic Variance Theory of Natural Selection.
--MHC is controlled by genetic expression and environmental exposure.

-Major Histogram Complex detection and match-making plays the most significant role in mate selection, sexual attraction, and reproductive attraction.
--Chemical desires from MHC-based hetero/homosexual attractions override the Theory of Free-Will.
--Controlled by makeup of MHC, which is genetic and environmentally controlled, and is not currently able to be modified or influenced by conscious intervention or medically-based modifications.
---No one has a choice when it comes to MHC-based attractions.
--Heterosexuals are only attracted to heterosexual MHCs.
--Homosexuals are only attracted to homosexual MHCs.

-Genetic-controlled alterations deviations from heterosexuals:
--Abnormal digit-length ratios.
--Reverse hair-growth patterns.
--Significantly more likely to be left-handed.
--Have longer penises
--~Quicker ocular response to moving objects.
---All of these are variances in traits under the natural Theories of Natural Selection and Genetic And Trait Variance.
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Default Re: Are you born gay or do you become gay?

I think that it's a little bit of both. After all, some people are straight (or believe they are straight) for many years before realising that they're attracted to members of their own gender. I don't think it's a purely environmental thing though, because even in open societies in the west today, homosexuality is hardly encouraged and the culture isn't designed to encourage it.
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